German UFO research

                               VESCO.TXT
                               by                                Al
                               PintoWe, because of the infinitesimal
                               size of the Universe, can quite easily
                               say that the probability of the Earth
                               being the only planet inhabited by
                               intelligent beings is not logical.
                               However, while there is research
                               going on today inorder to prove
                               the existence of extraterrestrial
                               intelligence (SETI) by listening
                               in on the radio waves of space,
                               I wonder; have we been contacted
                               already? Is there something in the UFO
                               phenomenon that proves the existence
                               of extraterrestrials? Let's look
                               at the facts.  Thousands of people
                               from all around the world report the
                               sightings of strange aerial phenomenon
                               every year. It has been going on for
                               many years, but not as much as from
                               1947 to present.  Due to the fact
                               that so many people have seen objects
                               in the sky that they can't identify,
                               we could at least admit that there
                               is sufficient reason to believe that
                               UFO's exist. We can't scientifically
                               prove their existence just based
                               on that fact but we can't ignore it
                               either. So our next logical step would
                               be to get more data.  Is the origin
                               of all UFO's extraterrestrial? Is
                               there a possibiliy that atleast
                               some may come from Earth and Earth
                               technology? The answer to that
                               question is yes, some are Earth
                               originated. People can easily mistake
                               a plane or helicopter flying at night
                               as a UFO and have already. Some even
                               thought that Venus was one. However,
                               while most UFO's could be explained,
                               there are an astonishing number of
                               reports that cannot. They include
                               reports from people such as police
                               chiefs, scientists, pilots, and most
                               interestingly, astronauts. There is
                               plenty of information publically
                               available that is reputable about
                               details of their encounters. Our next
                               step should be to concentrate on
                               these unexplainable sightings. Out
                               of these, is it still possible
                               that the object could come from
                               Earth? Dr. Renato Vesco thought
                               so. In his book Intercept UFO,
                               he writes about his experience and
                               information with Nazi Germany. I am
                               going to include a paper written by
                               him but first let me tell you his
                               credentials.               Renato
                               Vesco is a fully liscensed aircraft
                               engineer and a specialist         in
                               aerospace and ramjet developements. He
                               attended the University         of
                               Rome and, before WWII, studied
                               at the German Institute for
                               Aerial Developement. During
                               the war, Vesco worked with the
                               Germans at the Fiat Lake Garda
                               secret installations in Italy. In
                               the 1960's, he worked for the
                               Italian Air Ministry of Defense
                               as an undercover technical agent,
                               investigating the UFO mystery.
                               He writes:         "On November 27,
                               1944, a B-27 of the United States
                               Air Force, returning from a raid on
                               Speyer, West Germany, encountered
                               a huge, orange colored light moving
                               upward at an estimated speed of 500
                               MPH. When the pilots reported, sector
                               radar had reported negatively, because
                               nothing had registered on the screen.
                               But the object seen by the returning
                               bomber was only the first of numerous
                               others spotted by American pilots
                               over wartime Germany and promptly
                               baptized 'foo-fighters.' Fighter
                               pilots Falls and Backer. of the
                               415th Squadron, reported such an
                               encounter a month later forcing the
                               Air Force to admit that such objects
                               might exist. Later encounters with
                               foo fighters led experts to assume
                               they were German inventions of a new
                               order employed to baffle radar. How
                               close they came to the truth, they
                               learned only when the war was over
                               and Allied Intelligence teams moved
                               into the secret Nazi plants. The
                               foo-fighters seen by American pilots
                               were only a minor demonstration,
                               afraction of a vast variety of methods
                               used to confuse radar and interrupt
                               electro magnetic currents.  Work on
                               the German anti-radar Feurball,
                               or fireball, had been speeded
                               up during the fall of 1944 at a
                               Luftwaffe experimental center near
                               Oberammergau, Bavaria. There, and
                               at the aeronautical establishment at
                               Weiner Neustadt, the first fireballs
                               were produced. Later, when the
                               Russians moved closer to Austria,
                               the workshops producing the fireballs
                               were moved to Black Forest. Fast and
                               remote controlled, the fireballs,
                               equipped with kliston tubes and
                               operating on the same frequency
                               as Allied radar, could eliminate
                               the blips from screens and remain
                               practically invisible to ground
                               control.The Nazi Feurball failed
                               to interfere with the Allied air
                               offensive. The foo fighters had been
                               launched too late and could no longer
                               change the course of events, but in
                               themselves they were significant not
                               only because they were the outcome
                               of a technical evolution which could
                               have led to more dangerous weapons,
                               but also because they showed that Nazi
                               technology had moved in a direction
                               far beyond anything expected by
                               Allied Intelligence.As the fall of
                               Germany approached, the Nazi Leaders
                               reverted to an ambitious project
                               created by Gauleiter Franz Hofer
                               who had become high commissioner for
                               the Italian Tyrol and the Southern
                               Alps. The project foresaw setting
                               up an incredible fortress in the
                               mountains, including parts of Italy,
                               Austria and Bavaria. Hofer submitted
                               his plan to Hitler's aide, Martin
                               Bormann in November 1944, but he
                               had prepared for this moment back
                               in 1938 when Nazi agents carefully
                               mapped all mountain passes, caves,
                               bridges, highways, and located sights
                               for underground factories, munitions
                               dumps, arms and food caches. To
                               complete work on this fortress,
                               Hofer demanded a slave labor force
                               of a quarter of a million- 70%
                               Austrian workers and 30% men of
                               the Tyrolese home guard. So-called
                               U-Plants were to be set up underground
                               as gigantic workshops and launching
                               pads for the secret weopons which
                               were to turn the tide of the war in
                               favor of the Nazis. Among these were
                               some 74 tunnels along Lake Garda,
                               in Northern Italy, which were to
                               be adapted and transformed into
                               a vast assembly plant by FIAT of
                               Turin in close collaboration with
                               the department of Minister Albert
                               Speer. Seven other tunnels along
                               Lake Garda, near Limone, were to
                               produce several weapons tested at
                               the Hermann Goering Institute of Riva
                               del Garda.According to the archives
                               of the German High Command and of
                               the Allied Combined Intelligence
                               Objectives Sub-Committee, other plants
                               in vital areas of Central Germany,
                               code named M-Werke, were to produce
                               powerful missles such as the giant
                               A.9/A.10 destined to destroy New York
                               and Washington. But most important
                               was the Alpine area, for it was from
                               there that the supreme weapons were
                               to come.This report, never released
                               by the Allies, was made by a French
                               diplomat. It was forwarded to Free
                               French Intelligence Headquarters
                               at Algiers. The top secret report
                               reffered to the blue clouds as
                               something approaching anti-aircraft
                               projectiles based on the grisou (fire
                               damp) gas found in mines, and which
                               had been succesfully tried against
                               other bombers over Lake Garda. The
                               French report was intercepted by
                               Italian agents and deciphered at
                               SID (Italian Counter-Intelligence)
                               Headquarters at Castiglione della
                               Stiviere. The message was later
                               captured by a military intelligence
                               team operating for the eighth
                               Army in Italy.  The contents of
                               the message was no novelty to the
                               Allies. Already, some time ago,
                               shortly after the bombing of Dresden,
                               British and American intelligence had
                               obtained a brief account concerning
                               the use of some such weapon used
                               against a group of twelve American
                               bombers. That message, which came
                               from an agent in Switzerland attached
                               to Allen Dulle's team, also stated
                               the attacker had been a "strange
                               hemispherical object which flew at
                               fantastic speeds and destroyed the
                               bombers without using firearms.' Then,
                               after the German surrender in May,
                               1945, a team of British agents,
                               investigating the files of some
                               of the underground factories in
                               Black Forest, discovered that a
                               large number of documents concerned
                               'important experiments made with
                               liquid oxygen for new turbine engines
                               capable of developing extraordinary
                               power.'Other documents described
                               the use of 'gaseous explosives'
                               which had been originally tested in
                               Austria in 1936. Their existence was
                               later confirmed by the ALSOS Mision
                               and by Dr. Hans Friedrich Gold,
                               of the Laboratory for Aeronautical
                               Research at Volkenrode. The ejection
                               of gas explosives had been part of
                               the program tackled by researchers
                               on Lake Garda and later tested
                               with success by the circular flying
                               object against Allied bombers.This
                               object, in German military files,
                               already had an operational name:
                               'Round Lightning' (Kugelblitz) Long
                               and close observation between the
                               special Air Research Corps of the
                               SS, Austrian research centers in
                               Vienna, the Hermann Goering Works
                               and the vast complex of underground
                               G-Works had previously produced
                               amazing improvement on the fireball
                               or foo-fighter which, despite it's
                               anti-radar effectiveness, remained
                               comparatively harmless. But by
                               combining the principle of the
                               aircraft with a round, symetrical
                               plane with direct gyroscopic
                               stabilization, employing an
                               ejector-gun using grisou and
                               a gelatinous organic/mettalic
                               fuel for a total reaction turbine,
                               adding remote control, vehicle take
                               off, infrared seeking equipment
                               and electrostatic firing systems,
                               the harmless fireball became the
                               lethal Kugelblitz!Believe me, I can
                               prove what I say. The Kugelblitz,
                               to be on the safe side, employed,
                               in addition to it's electrostatic
                               firing system, a similar system
                               based on short waves and built by
                               the Patent Verwertungs Gesselschaft
                               of Salzburg, Austria. The whole thing
                               formed one compact, round mass which
                               had absolutely nothing in common
                               with any flying object ever produced
                               before.In documents found by British
                               Intelligence teams and submitted to
                               the British Intelligence Objectives
                               Sub-Committee-documents which I have
                               been able to study-these and many
                               other details are known. They can
                               be found in the Sub-Committee's
                               Final Report Number 61 on the
                               'Weapons Section of the L.F.A.,
                               Volkenrode.'Kugelblitz, together
                               with it's "younger brothers of the
                               fireball, lens shaped bomb and other
                               weapons, began the real history
                               of the UFO's. In itself, it was a
                               second generation fireball.The 'round
                               lightning' weapon, the incredibly
                               fast and mysterious disk-shaped craft
                               that had been rumored and sighted in
                               action, was used only once. As the
                               Allied forces crossed the Rhine, the
                               only craft of it's type was destroyed
                               by th SS on instructions from Berlin,
                               to prevent it's capture. But ever
                               since, due to the severe censorship
                               imposed by 'T' force of the British
                               Army in Germany, and later, thanks
                               to the complete blackout imposed by
                               London, nothing more was heard of
                               Round Lightning. I know that agents of
                               the 'T' force camp at Bad Gandersheim
                               closely examined the documents found
                               in the G-Works, documents which had
                               been elaborated by the technical
                               general staff of the SS and by
                               technical control of the Henshel
                               and Zeppelin works. These documents
                               concern the propulsion unit of the
                               Kugelblitz prototype built by the
                               Kreislaufbetrieb Motor D.W. in 1943
                               for the F.F.K.F. (Forschungsinstitut
                               for Kraftfhart and Fahzeugmotoren)
                               at Stuttgart-Untertuerkheim and
                               perfected by proffessors Kamm
                               and Ernst. The British called
                               this motor an 'oxygen recycle
                               system.' It was later abandoned
                               in favor of the Walter turbine,
                               powered by hydrogen peroxide. The
                               documents found discussed the
                               possibility of using both systems
                               in a compound-type propulsion unit.
                               To these basic facts, I must add: A
                               mass of documents and equipment were
                               taken by British 'T' teams to Bedford
                               and then to Canada and Australia. In
                               a certain sense, the British were
                               more intelligent than the Americans,
                               for they permitted German scientists
                               to complete their work in Germany
                               on the sight where they had worked
                               all through the war-only, of course,
                               under close supervision. This happened
                               at Darmstadt and Goettingen. Later on,
                               these installations were dismantled
                               and shipped to Britain. The Transport
                               Service of the British Ministry
                               of Aviation discreetly shipped the
                               scientists and documents to Britain,
                               Canada and Australia, in successive
                               phases. Lists of the scientists to be
                               sent overseas had been compiled in the
                               spring of 1944 by the B.I.O.S. and
                               formed separate and specialized
                               teams.One such team, composed of
                               Proffessor Ben Lockspeiser and
                               W.J. Richards, Dr. S.H. Hollingdale
                               and Captain A.D. Green, handled
                               'advanced projects, missles, jet and
                               turbine craft.' Another, including
                               T.A. Taylor and M.A. Wheeler,
                               investigated German advances in the
                               field of Thermo-refraction. Another
                               team, which obtained the services of
                               Dr. Ernst Westermann, former director
                               of the F.D.R.P. Institutes of Speyer
                               and Saarbrucken, concentrated on the
                               fireball projects. The then Ministry
                               of Aircraft Production, similar
                               to the German wartime Jaegerstab,
                               ceased to exist officially on March
                               31, 1946, amd became part of the
                               Ministry of Supply. In the years that
                               followed, these teams, and especially
                               the experts headed by Professor
                               Lockspeiser, worked on a multitude
                               of German projects, adapting these to
                               their own experiments in the field of
                               'suction' wings and on the work of
                               two German scientists during the war,
                               Professors Prandtl and Busemann,
                               to develope a high speed fighter
                               in which the air intake along
                               the wings was discharged through
                               a half-moon-shaped crescent along
                               the fuselage in order to both drive
                               and support the vehicle at high
                               speeds.This research comes to mind
                               when one remembers the incident of
                               January 3, 1956. A cessna, employed
                               on a job of aerial photography near
                               Pasadena, encountered three circular
                               flying objects which circled it
                               at a speed of 1600 mph and at a
                               distance of two miles. One of these
                               objects, in suddenly breaking away
                               from the formation, gave off a long,
                               vaporous trail as it sped through a
                               cumulous cloud, cutting the cloud in
                               two. 'Exactly as if it had sucked
                               up the cloud.,' the Cessna pilot
                               exclaimed later.Back in 1946, the
                               British Broadcasting Corporation
                               announced that Britain 'would soon
                               have aircraft capable of speeds well
                               over 1000 mph, that, according to some
                               experts, such craft had already been
                               built and that, in the near future,
                               they could circumnavigate the globe
                               several times because they needed only
                               fuel for take off and landing..' Other
                               British sources mentioned aircraft
                               capable of speeds of several thousand
                               miles an hour.More than twenty years
                               have passed since the otherwise
                               so-eminently-careful BBC boasted of
                               'Britain's planes of the future,'
                               and officially these aircraft still
                               remain little more than a dream. And
                               yet, did not Ben Lockspeiser, the
                               man who was in charge of the most
                               responsible 'T' teams, declare that
                               'such craft would need no fuel?' Did
                               he not imply  that such craft
                               would gain their own propellant
                               from the atmosphere by suction
                               and expulsion?  On June 26, 1953,
                               an intensely luminous flying object
                               majestically crossed the night sky
                               of Albacete, Spain, at an altitude
                               of 60 miles. In Britain, scientific
                               papers produced by members of the
                               'T' teams showed suggestive titles
                               such as 'Boundary Layer Flow Over
                               a Permeable Surface Through Which
                               Suction is Applied' (J.H. Preston),
                               'The Aerodynamics of Porous Sheets'
                               by G.J. Taylor, and Pankhurst's
                               Aerofoil Catalogue.In 1959,
                               aeronautical engineer N.S. Currey
                               wrote: 'Canada today must be counted
                               among the most advanced aeronautical
                               powers in the world,' and added
                               cautiously, 'This refers above all
                               to the field of jet propulsion.'The
                               Canadian Department of Mines and
                               the Technical Surveys Mapping Branch
                               reserved a vast area-125,000 square
                               miles-for production of experimental
                               aircraft. This was one of the
                               decisions reached by the committees
                               of the Commonwealth Conference on
                               Aeronautical Research. This desolate,
                               heavily woooded and mountainous
                               region between British Columbia
                               and Alberta, with the Peace River
                               district as it's Northern frontier
                               and Washington State to the South,
                               was an ideal location-few and easily
                               controlled roads, few settlements, few
                               railroads, but good communications in
                               the north and the south via the trunk
                               line from Prince George to Edmonton
                               and that from Vancouver to the United
                               States border, and only one major
                               highway, te Alaska.Britain already
                               had considerable wartime experiance
                               in this sort of enterprise. In 1942,
                               at the height of the German raids, the
                               RAF had set up five secret airports in
                               the very heart of the New Forest, in
                               Hampshire. The big thing about these
                               installations was the fact that they
                               included complete industrial plants,
                               decentralizing major groups essential
                               for war production. They were called
                               'shade workshops.' The Germans,
                               too, had much experience in this
                               field. One of their major plants
                               at Volkenrode resisted all attempts
                               at aerial identification throughout
                               the war.Neither the British nor the
                               Americans, on an official level,
                               saw eye to eye in scientific matters
                               at the close of the war against
                               Germany and afterward. The United
                               States' refusal to share atomic
                               secrets with Britain was never quite
                               forgotten in Whitehall, and Britain
                               set out to prove, with Canada,
                               that she was well able to produce
                               her own fission bomb. If Congress
                               steadfastly accused the British of
                               giving little or nothing in return
                               for information, the British felt
                               they had been mistrusted and severely
                               neglected. They preferred to go ahead
                               with their plans in Canada.The fact
                               that the area has been photographed
                               again and again by high altitude
                               reconnaissance planes, both U.S. and
                               Russian, does not perturb the Canadian
                               or British authorities. The plants and
                               saucer ports are underground, hidden
                               in primeval forests of Columbia.The
                               question immediately arises: Why
                               have not Britain and Canada made
                               such craft available to their other
                               partners in the North Atlantic Treaty
                               Organization? I believe there may
                               be many answers to such a question,
                               but one of the main points is this:
                               Lack of confidence and fear of
                               being exploited remain rife among
                               the nations, as they are among
                               people. And why should not Britain
                               and her Commonwealth partner retain
                               one major trump card which, one day,
                               may become invaluable? The pooling of
                               scientific secrets is rarely entirely
                               sincere.All the evidence, all the
                               know how of British scientists before
                               and during the last war, combined
                               with the astounding progress in
                               propulsion and the discoveries in
                               suction aircraft of the Germans,
                               based on 18 years of research into
                               the most secret documents of the
                               past war, have convinced me of one
                               thing: The flying saucers do not
                               come from space. They come from
                               a few hundred miles outside the
                               United States. They mean no harm, and
                               Washington knows this. Hence the long
                               standing order to all U.S. Air Force
                               pilots: Intercept--but do not fire
                               upon." This article, which appeared in
                               Argosy Magazine in August, 1969, is
                               reprinted above in it's entirety. It
                               is important because it is one of the
                               few reports that goes into detail
                               about the revolutionary technical
                               advancements made by the Nazi's in
                               the field of aeronautical research.
                               Unfortunately, Vesco doesn't offer any
                               real substantiation for the existence
                               of the Kugelblitz, which is the crux
                               of his subject. However, in his book
                               Intercept, UFO, he tells us that
                               the Kugelblitz was indeed tested
                               some time in February, 1945 over the
                               great underground complex at Kahla,
                               in Thuringia. Both the Kugelblitz and
                               the Feurball were then destroyed by
                               the retreating S.S. So, could this
                               story be considered fact? We have
                               to take into consideration a number
                               of issues. First and foremost,
                               there is the Nazi's.Could they
                               have been developing craft of
                               such advancement? History has it
                               that not only were they at war,
                               which required much in the way of
                               manpower, but they took on incredible
                               projects such as constructing huge
                               underground complexes at Nordhausen
                               in the Harz mountains, Pennemunde
                               and others. They also had their
                               Naval Vessals provide support for a
                               very detailed study of the Antartic
                               in which they were alleged to have
                               been building underground bases there
                               as well. General Heinrich Himmler,
                               the Reichsfuhrer as his S.S. men
                               would call him, was quite frankly,
                               a madman. He believed in obediance,
                               controlled breeding and vivisection
                               of homans. He believed in biological
                               mutation and what could be produced
                               with it. He used the slaves for his
                               work force, as well as specimens
                               for research. Let's discuss this
                               possibility more in the message boards
                               in Paranet and the UFO echos. I am
                               starting to get quite tired of the
                               theory that UFO's and related matters,
                               are extraterrestrial. It is being
                               shoved down our throats by figures
                               like "Falcon" and "Condor" as well as
                               articles in Paranet like MUGGER.DOC
                               and PICNIC2.DOC. As a matter of fact,
                               that is about all I hear anymore. It
                               seems that since we want to hear about
                               EBE's, the so-called, Intelligence
                               Community, is giving us just what
                               we want to hear. I call on each and
                               every person in the UFO community to
                               research, in debth, HUMAN history. In
                               particular, great scientists such as,
                               Tesla and his experiments; Einstein's
                               theories; Germany's secret weapons
                               of the Second World War by R. Lusar;
                               the Philadelphia Experiment; Admiral
                               Byrd's Project Highjump; books and
                               periodicals about Nazi Germany and
                               their interest in Antartica; then tell
                               me that the possibility of technology
                               (Earth Technology) could not possibly
                               exist that could explain UFO's and the
                               reason why it is above top secret.
                               t documents of the past war, have
                               convinced me of one thing: The flying
                               saucers do not come from space. They
                               come from a few hu


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